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PRIVATE MONEY LOAN CASE SCENARIO
Have a case scenario for a client of a loan officer. Borrower inherited a $3 million dollar home in Fort Lauderdale. Waterfront property. The land is worth $2 million. Free and clear. Wants to borrower $300,000 via private or hard money but does not want to get homeowners insurance because the insurance carrier will want the house fixed before insuring it. Even if the house got destroyed, the lien holder/lender will not get hurt because the land itself is $2 million. The house was built in 1950 and could be a tear down. Advise would be appreciated.
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This type of deal is theoretically possible with a truly private lender, but it is very high‑risk for the lender and unusual in practice; most institutional private/hard money lenders will still require hazard/wind/flood coverage on any improved waterfront property in Florida, regardless of land value.
Why lenders usually insist on insurance
Most mortgage and hard‑money loan agreements require the borrower to maintain property insurance and give the lender the right to buy force‑placed coverage if the borrower does not. Force‑placed (lender‑placed) insurance exists specifically because lenders consider insurance a basic risk control, not an optional extra, even when the collateral has significant equity.
Land‑only vs improved‑property logic
Your economic logic is that the “real” collateral is the land (≈2M) and the structure is essentially a scrape/tear‑down, so losing the house does not impair the lender’s position on a 300K note. That argument can work IF:
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The lender underwrites it explicitly as a land or “covered‑land” loan (values the lot as if vacant, looks at rezoning/build‑ability, etc.).
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The loan docs, appraisal, and LTV are all structured around land value, not “improved property” value.
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The lender is truly private (family office, HNW individual, JV partner) and willing to waive insurance in writing.
Most commercial/retail hard‑money lenders still treat this as an improved property loan (since a structure is present) and condition closing on at least basic hazard coverage and often wind/flood in South Florida.
Practical structures that might work
If your client refuses homeowners insurance, but the numbers are strong, options to explore:
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True private note secured by mortgage
A sophisticated private investor can record a 300K first mortgage, underwrite purely to land value, and include clear disclosures that there is no property insurance and that the house may be demolished or might be destroyed with no insurance claim. This is a pure “equity‑lending” play where the investor is comfortable owning a 2M waterfront lot for 300K if things go bad. -
Structure as a land/tear‑down loan
Get an appraisal that brackets “as‑is improved” AND “as‑vacant” land value and then write the loan as if the house does not matter. Some niche private lenders (not big hard‑money shops) will consider high‑equity land loans at very low leverage (e.g., ≤15–20% of conservative land value). -
Short‑term bridge with explicit demolition rights
A bridge or fix‑and‑flip lender that is used to teardowns might allow a short‑term note if the plan is to fully demo and rebuild quickly and you obtain a builder’s risk or course‑of‑construction policy instead of traditional HO coverage. Many Fort Lauderdale bridge/fix‑and‑flip lenders are used to waterfront teardowns and build‑to‑suit deals.
Key risk and compliance points for you as LO
From your side as a licensed originator:
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Major institutional “private” lenders will almost all require insurance; trying to force the no‑insurance concept on them will likely stall every file.
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If you facilitate a no‑insurance private loan, make sure:
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It is clearly outside your regulated mortgage broker channels and properly documented as a private money deal.
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Borrower signs robust disclosures acknowledging no hazard/wind/flood coverage, potential total loss of improvements, and that the lender could still foreclose on the land.
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You are not giving legal or tax advice and strongly recommend Florida real‑estate counsel for both parties.
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If you’d like, I can sketch sample underwriting criteria and a one‑page “risk disclosure” checklist you could use when talking to potential private investors on this type of waterfront land‑equity deal.
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How does land value vs home value affect loan eligibility in Florida
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In Florida, when it comes to loans, it is important to understand where the value is situated, whether it is in the land alone or in both land and improvements, as lenders assess land-heavy collateral as being a higher risk and tend to restrict terms (LTV, rates, and structure) more.
How lenders view land in comparison to assess the value of a home
- For a home mortgage, lenders traditionally provide loans based on the combined value of the land and the house (the improved property), and the standard LTV (Loan-to-Value) ratios are based on that value (ranging from 80-97% based on the program).
- When it comes to land, whether it is dominant or unoccupied, it is more difficult for lenders to assess risk, as the value is higher.
Home loans compared to land loans in Florida
- When it comes to Florida land/lot loans, the terms are usually more stringent, such as higher down payment requirements (20-30% or more) and additional restrictions, because land is seen as more difficult to sell and its value can be more volatile.
- This is confirmed by the specialized Florida lenders.
- They usually require a minimum down payment of 20-25% for land/lot loans.
- They offer 10-to 20-year terms, with higher rates than those of long-term fixed options for primary homes.
Effect on LTV and cash-out potential
- When a structure is older or about to be torn down, and the key value is the land (e.g., waterfront lots), extremely cautious lenders tend to underwrite only to the land value.
Consider the following example: Suppose the home is modern and adds positive value. In this case, the lenders are comfortable with even higher LTVs because they believe there would be a larger pool of potential buyers and a simpler resale of the improved property in the event of a foreclosure.
Appraising and “highest and best use.”
- An appraiser may separate the land’s value from the improvements’ value and consider the highest and best use.
- If the land’s value is equal to or greater than the value of the current improvements, the best use may be to remove the improvements and build new ones.
- If an appraisal indicates that the highest and best use is effectively the land, many lenders will close the file as a land/tear‑down or construction loan rather than a home loan, which can impact eligibility and terms more dramatically.
Practical implications for structuring deals
- If the value is primarily in the land (an older home, a luxury/waterfront lot), expect: lower max LTVs, greater focus on borrower strength/exit strategy, potential requirements for a build or redevelopment plan, and use of portfolio, construction, or private/hard money loans.
- If value is balanced between land and improvements and the home is livable, you’re more likely to fit standard conforming/non‑QM products with better pricing and easier eligibility.
- Sure!
- Please provide me with a sample scenario including purchase price, Florida location, and loan purpose (appraised as-is vs as-vacant), and I’ll explain the differences between a Florida retail lender and a private/hard-money lender, including how each would size and structure the max loan.
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Most Florida land loans require a significantly larger down payment than standard home mortgages, typically in the 20–30% range, with some products and situations pushing higher (30–40% or more) depending on the land type and borrower profile.
Typical down payment ranges
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Many Florida land/lot lenders quote a “normal” down payment of about 20–25% of the purchase price for reasonably improved or homesite‑type parcels.
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It is not unusual for lenders focused on rural or specialty land to expect 25% or more down, and some indicate that 30–40% is common on certain rural or recreational tracts.
How property type changes the percentage
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Improved or homesite‑ready land (road access, utilities nearby) often qualifies for the lower end of the range, around 20–25% down, sometimes 20% for shorter terms.
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Unimproved/raw land (no utilities, more speculative use) typically sits at the higher end, where lenders may want 25–35% or even up to 50% down in higher‑risk scenarios.
Lender and program variability
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Some Florida ag/land lenders specify minimums like 25% down on standard lot loans, while certain farm or niche land products may require different equity levels based on use and term length.
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A few specialized or portfolio lenders will occasionally allow lower down payments (around 10–15%) on improved land if the rest of the file is very strong, but the general guidance borrowers should plan for is 20–30% down.
If you tell me the land type (raw vs improved, homesite vs ag/recreational), price point, and whether there’s a build plan, I can give you a Florida‑specific range you could quote to borrowers as an expectation setter.
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What if the house is a fixer upper but habitable. Can the borrower get a land loan on the waterfront lot and the lender disregard the house?
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A lender may base the loan amount solely on land value. However, once a home is habitable, most mainstream lenders in Florida treat the property as improved. It will not qualify as a land-only loan and will be underwritten and documented as an improved property.
How lenders consider habitable “fixers.”
- If a home is structurally sound, has all utilities, and meets basic health and safety standards, most residential, portfolio, and many hard-money lenders will classify it as a house rather than land.
- This classification requires a residential mortgage or investor/DSCR/fix-and-flip structure, hazard insurance (often covering wind and flood), and an appraisal based on improved value, even if the property is a “fixer.”
Underwriting Approaches That Disregard the House
A lender that has the mindset of a land lender could:
- Obtain an appraisal with both “as-is” (improved) and “as-vacant” land values, then size the loan to a conservative percentage of land value.
- Document the loan as a mortgage on the entire property, as the lien applies to both land and improvements.
- Decide that the future removal of the existing structure is not a concern.
However, few institutional land lenders will offer loans secured by properties with habitable homes. Their guidelines typically restrict loans to vacant or nearly vacant land, fields, or lots, and exclude properties with livable structures.
Where This May Fit
If the house can be disregarded, this approach may apply to:
- A private hard money lender willing to treat the property as a land or tear-down opportunity and price it accordingly, resulting in low loan-to-value, higher rates, and short terms.
- A construction or fix-and-flip lender who underwrites based on post-repair or post-construction value, viewing the existing structure primarily as land.
In these cases, lenders require only basic insurance and use the structure as collateral, rather than excluding it.
Guidance for Assisting Borrowers
- If the home is habitable, do not expect to qualify for a Florida land loan program.
- These programs are designed and priced for vacant lots or acreage.
- If the borrower wants the lender to focus on the waterfront land, a more realistic request would be:
- “Will you size the loan at, say, 30-50% of conservative land value and consider the house as an extra?”
- Understand that this will almost always result in a portfolio, private, or hard-money loan, rather than standard land loan pricing.
Feel free to provide details on waterfront value, property age, and condition, and target loan amount. I will prepare two capital stack alternatives: one as a private land-driven note and another as a standard fix-and-flip or DSCR structure that includes the house.
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